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    The afterlife or life after death is a generic term for a continuation of existence after death, typically in a spiritual or ghostlike afterworld. Deceased persons are usually believed to go to a specific region or plane of existence in this afterworld, often depending on the type of person they are and the life they lived. Some believe the afterlife includes some form of preparation for the soul to be transferred to another body (reincarnation). The major views on the afterlife derive from religion, esotericism and metaphysics. There are those who are skeptical of the existence of the afterlife, or believe that it is absolutely impossible, such as the materialist-reductionists, who state that the topic is supernatural, therefore does not really exist or is unknowable.

    Types of views on the afterlife
    There are two fundamentally different types of views on the afterlife: observation based views and faith based views.

    The first type is based on some form of observation by a human or an instrument. These observations come from reincarnation research, near death experiences, out-of-body experiences, astral projection, electronic voice phenomena, mediumship, various forms of photography etcetera. They are studied by survivalism. The work of people like Bruce Moen and Robert Monroe are also of this type. Also scientific research into the afterlife is based on observation.
    The second type is based on some form of faith, usually faith in the myths that are told by ancestors or faith in the truth of religious books like the Bible, the Qur'an, the Talmud, the Vedas, the Tripitaka et cetera. This article is mainly about this second type
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    The afterlife in different metaphysical models
    In metaphysical models, theists generally believe some sort of afterlife awaits people when they die. Atheists generally believe that there is not a life after death. Members of some generally non-theistic religions such as Buddhism, tend to believe in an afterlife like reincarnation but without reference to God.

    Agnostics generally hold the position that like the existence of God, the existence of supernatural phenomena, such as souls or life after death, is unverifiable and therefore unknowable. Some philosophies (i.e. posthumanism, Humanism, and often empiricism) generally hold that there is not an afterlife.

    Many religions, whether they believe in the souls existence in another world like Christianity, Islam and many pagan belief systems, or in reincarnation like many forms of Hinduism and Buddhism, believe that ones status in the afterlife is a reward or punishment for their conduct during life. To the extent that the afterlife is a form of justice, it is usually restricted to humans, as animals are not held responsible for their actions.



    Afterlife in modern science
    Modern science, in general, either describes the universe and human beings without reference to a soul or to an afterlife, or tends to remain mute on the issue. A notable exception is a famous study conducted in 1901 by physician Duncan MacDougall, who sought to measure the weight purportedly lost by a human body when the soul departed the body upon death. MacDougall weighed dying patients in an attempt to prove that the soul was material, tangible and thus measurable. These experiments are widely considered to have had little if any scientific merit, and although MacDougall's results varied considerably from "21 grams," for some people this figure has become synonymous with the measure of a soul's mass. The title of the 2003 movie 21 Grams is a reference to MacDougall's findings.

    Others, such as Francis Crick in 1994, have attempted a scientific search for the soul. Frank Tipler has argued that physics can explain immortality, though such arguments are not falsifiable and thus do not qualify as science.

    Some investigations have been conducted which failed to find evidence that out-of-body experiences transcend the confines of the brain. For example, one hospital placed an LED marquee above its patients beds which displayed a hidden message that could only be read if one were looking down from above. As of 2001, no one who claimed near-death experience or out-of-body experience within that hospital had reported having seen the hidden message.



    Afterlife in Ancient Egyptian Religion
    The afterlife played an important role in Ancient Egyptian religion, and its belief system is one of the earliest known. When the body died, parts of its soul known as ka (body double) and the ba (personality) would go to the Kingdom of the Dead. While the soul dwelt in the Fields of Aaru, Osiris demanded work as payback for the protection he provided. Statues were placed in the tombs to serve as substitutes for the deceased.

    Arriving at one's reward in afterlife was a demanding ordeal, requiring a sin-free heart and the ability to recite the spells, passwords, and formulae of the Book of the Dead. In the Hall of Two Truths, the deceased's heart was weighed against the Shu feather of truth and justice taken from the headdress of the goddess Ma'at. If the heart was lighter than the feather, they could pass on, but if it were heavier they would be devoured by the demon Ammit.

    Egyptians also believed that being mummified was the only way to have an afterlife. Only if the corpse had been properly embalmed and entombed in a mastaba, could the dead live again in the Fields of Yalu and accompany the Sun on its daily ride. Due to the dangers the afterlife posed, the Book of the Dead was placed in the tomb with the body.
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    Post by S2000 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:33 pm

    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my god how biggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg message you gotttttttttttttttttttttttt there devil xa
    im realy realy thanking you for the bigest message ever in 1union.com
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    Post by Devil xA on Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:34 pm

    oh thank u lil man
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    Post by Madwolf on Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:47 am

    Very well written, congratulations. cheers
    Very intresting too, but I would also like to hear your specific opinion on the subject too Smile
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    Post by Devil xA on Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:46 am

    Very Happy

    well man am mouslim !!

    so i belive that there is 2 things
    jannah which means heaven and juhannam wich means hell

    jannah and juhannam both have kinda a diffrenet leve of pardaise (sorry if the spelling is wrong Surprised ) and toshering (sorry if the spelling is wrong Surprised )

    and that our souls wont go there till judgement day but my level of comfort while in the grave depends on my belief in The God
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    Post by Devil xA on Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:49 am

    and i would like to hear ur opinion Very Happy
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    Post by S_W_A_Y_E_R on Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:06 pm

    YH THTS MY OPINION FIRST WE WILL HAVE A JUDGEMENT DAY THEN PARADISE OR HELL!


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    Post by Madwolf on Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:35 pm

    Devil xA wrote:Very Happy

    well man am mouslim !!

    so i belive that there is 2 things
    jannah which means heaven and juhannam wich means hell

    jannah and juhannam both have kinda a diffrenet leve of pardaise (sorry if the spelling is wrong Surprised ) and toshering (sorry if the spelling is wrong Surprised )

    and that our souls wont go there till judgement day but my level of comfort while in the grave depends on my belief in The God
    Intresting, thanks.
    it is paradise, you put in an extra 'a', but it was understandable.
    When you say toshering, i think you mean torturing, right?

    My opinion on the afterlife?
    I am undecided for the time being, i think re-incarnation is quite possible.
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    Post by Devil xA on Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:09 am

    Embarassed yes torturing !!

    and thanks for helping master sam Very Happy

    so afterlife doesn mean anything to u ?
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    Post by S_W_A_Y_E_R on Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:36 am

    WELL I AGREE WITH XA CUZ I M A MUSLIM 2


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    Post by Madwolf on Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:03 pm

    Yes, i think heaven and hell is also likely.


    The reason i am undecided is not to do with what it means to me, its more that i just don't know what to think.
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    Post by Devil xA on Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:03 am

    here ill tell u something !!

    when ever i wanna think about something clearly

    u saw the beach pictures ?

    i go there and sit by myslef and think and think and think

    maybe u should try doin something like that
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    Post by S_W_A_Y_E_R on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:37 pm

    HMMMM WT DO U THINK ABT UR LOVE????Smile


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    Post by Devil xA on Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:41 pm

    sometimes yea the girl that i love and sometimes i think about life and my goals
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    Post by Madwolf on Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:15 pm

    Devil xA wrote:here ill tell u something !!

    when ever i wanna think about something clearly

    u saw the beach pictures ?

    i go there and sit by myslef and think and think and think

    maybe u should try doin something like that

    you would be suprised how much i do that sort of thing, i do have places i go to think, including one place near by which i go to often. I have also started meditating recently. It is healthy to stop and think once in a while. Things become more clear, there does not nessiserily have to be an answer, and there may be more than one answer. It also helps one realize how amazing the world is too.

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    Post by J . U . N . I . O . R on Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:27 pm

    Madwolf wrote:Yes, i think heaven and hell is also likely.


    The reason i am undecided is not to do with what it means to me, its more that i just don't know what to think.


    i advise u sam not to think of this kind of things . cos there too many scary things and beautifull things that will happen after life . i rather not to talk or even think about it .
    and i really advise u to do the same sam .

    just think of how beatiful life is .


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    Post by Madwolf on Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:36 pm

    Well, death doesn't really scare me, even if the afterlife does not exist, it is like many things i think about, undecided to me, what it might be, i have learnt to live more in the mystery than in the know. i suppose i can be happy without any answer.

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    Post by J . U . N . I . O . R on Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:54 pm

    am sorry to tell u this sam but afterlife does exsited and people will reborn again .
    becos of that i advised u not to think of it

    and yes u'll be happy without an answer

    and sometimes mystery is good .


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    Post by Madwolf on Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:07 pm

    J . U . N . I . O . R wrote:am sorry to tell u this sam but afterlife does exsited and people will reborn again .
    You did not understand what i said.
    In other posts i have mentioned how i beleive in re-incarnation and other possibilities.
    I did not say in the post in this topic that i do not think it exists, refering to:
    madwolf wrote:Well, death doesn't really scare me, even if the afterlife does not exist, it is like many things i think about, undecided to me, what it might be, i have learnt to live more in the mystery than in the know. i suppose i can be happy without any answer.
    I basically said that i do not have a specific beleif [which is ture for many things with me, i will explain in a moment].
    in the quote above, i basically said that death does not scare me, NOT that i do not beleive in an afterlife.

    I don't like to form solid beleifs about things, i usualy think that things are more likely than other things, but rarely decide 100%.

    Plus, why would you be sorry to tell me that there is an afterlife? wouldn't that be more of a releif than anything?
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    Post by No_One on Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:18 pm

    this topic is in fire!!
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    Post by Madwolf on Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:41 pm

    What do you mean by that?
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    Post by No_One on Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:49 pm

    ummm
    nothing
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    Post by Madwolf on Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:11 pm

    Did you think what i was saying was agressive? Because i'm sorry if it seemed that way, but i can asure you it wasn't.

    Edit: nevermind, i understand now, sorry about the confusion.
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    Post by S_W_A_Y_E_R on Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:44 am

    amazing replys by j & sam

    hey this life is 2 short it is like when u stop @ a signal first red light tht means ur young yellow light tht means ur in middle ages green light tht means ur old enough & then u go...................death!!!!! life is a journey we r here 2 complete a test! it is like when u walk u get tired u go near a tree & lay down then u go away...........................after this life there will b judgment day 4 sure no matter wt people think but there will b judgment day & after tht gd ones will go 2 paradise & the others 2 HELL thts wt life is.................................this is my point of view


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    Post by Devil xA on Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:39 pm

    well am sure nobody is mad !!

    so ppl if afterlife does exist what r we doin for it ?

    we have a tool !! and we have a choice either to be good or bad !!

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